166. Satellites do not exist and are not needed for television or communication

"The “geostationary communications satellite” was first created by Freemason science -fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke and supposedly became science-fact just a decade later. Before this, radio, television, and navigation systems like LORAN and DECCA were already well-established and worked fine using only ground-based technologies.  Nowadays huge fibre-optics cables connect the internet across oceans, gigantic cell towers triangulate GPS signals, and ionospheric propagation allows radio waves to be bounced all without the aid of the science-fiction best-seller known as “satellites.” "


More unsubstantiated claims from Dubay

Dubay could have just saved time and said “I don’t believe in Satellites”, to which the response is … show us some actual evidence for a change.  However let us go through his individual points

"The "geostationary communications satellite” was first created by .... science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke ..."

Arthur C Clarke was of course an eminent scientist, and proposed Geostationary satellites in that capacity using the laws of physics rather than his imagination as Dubay wants to imply.

Arthur C Clarke was a Freemason?

Was Arthur C Clarke a Free Mason?  I don’t know.  Is it relevant?  Presumably Dubay is adding Freemason’s to the list of people participating in the global conspiracy to make people believe the Earth is a sphere.  The list keeps growing.

But wait ... If Arthur C Clarke was a Freemason plotting to keep the truth about a spherical Earth under wraps wouldn't he want to discourage people from trying to put things in space and potentially discovering the fraud?  This is obviously the most stupid of global, super powerful conspiracies.

"[Before satellites]  radio, television, and navigation systems ... were already well-established ..."

Television and radio did indeed exist before satellites and certain wavelengths of radio can be bounced off the atmosphere.  True, but satellites can do more.  Without satellites there are things we would not be able to do including have GPS and modern communications links with remotes parts of the Earth.  I suppose Dubay will have some lame explanation of how satellite phones work in the middle of a desert in the Arctic and in the Antarctic.  Let me guess … a fleet of drones?

Satellite television is hard for flat earthers to explain away.  First note that the satellite dishes are attached to buildings in a fixed position.  Also note that if they are not correctly aligned they will not pick up a strong signal.  This implies that the dishes are pointing at a specific object in the sky that is transmitting the TV signal.

This simply cannot be achieved  24x7 for years without break without a geosynchronous satellite.

Google's Project Loon recently demonstrated internet access with balloons, but their communication with the ground is not directional like a TV satellite dish.

I can even give you a way to figure out how far away these geosynchronous satellites are (or drone or balloon If you prefer).

The following link provides a tool that will tell you where in the sky a particular geostationary satellite will be from your chosen location and you can use simple trigonometry to work out the approximate distance that the satellite would be above a flat Earth.

http://www.geosats.com/lookangle.html

Lets take satellite “Galaxy 17” an Intelsat launched in 2008 which provides several TV channels to Canada, North America and Mexico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_17

The online tool says in New Orleans, that I should set the dish elevation to 55 degrees.  I chose New Orleans because this is the same longitude as the satellite which makes the calculation simpler.
We can tell that the satellite is near the Equator because the online tool says that at Cayambe volcano in Ecuador which is on the equator the satellite dish would be pointing parallel to the Equator (270 degrees)

New Orleans is 2072 miles from the Equator

Using simple trigonometry for a right angle triangle that would make the distance to the satellite just under 3000 miles


The highest balloons go to about 30 miles, and the highest altitude for a plane is just under 60 miles.  Back to rockets and satellites I guess.

Of course our calculation here assumes a flat Earth, and so is wildly out because the Earth is not flat, but we have shown that using flat Earth assumptions we can see that the flat Earth contention that a satellite is some sort of drone or balloon is bogus.

I am sure that flat earther's will now say that the tool is part of the conspiracy, which of course it would have to be if satellites did not exist.

You could of course ask a satellite dish installer if they use a similar tool, or you can even install a satellite TV dish yourself to prove that the tool gives you the best reception.


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